SIAM - well written! You've expressed almost exactly what I was thinking about on my ride home from work today.
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A Born ins challenge to develop a "post cult" personality.
by stuckinamovement ina born ins challenge to develop a post cult personality.. mentally leaving the organization can be traumatic for a number of reasons.
one of the biggest challenges for born-ins in finding their pre cult personality is that our entire personalities are based on the religion.
there is no such thing as a pre cult personality for us.
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That's right, beeotch! Pour my coffee and go own with your cult self...
by undercover innoroomforgeorge must be drooling over this wt illustration.
the (1950s) woman of his dreams.... .
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y'all are crazy! I am sitting here LMAO!
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"9/11 was in fact....an Attack on Jehovah's Organization!!"
by RagingBull ingood day,.
this week is the super special week of activity with one of our favorite jw celebrities...the circuit overseer!!!.
in last night's talk, he gave sooooo much encouragement...just hearing him made me want to fall to my knees and worship him!
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Holy cow. Not sure if I posted this or not but we had the "privilege" of a CO visit about 2 months ago and the CO said the SAME THING! I mean the same back story, same stupid conclusion, everything.
Raging Bull, I'm going to send you a PM. maybe we have the same CO? If not, I wonder why this story is gaining legs now?
My mouth was wide open after he said that and my wife looked at me and laughed. On the car ride home, she was openly critical of this CO (neither of us are a fan anyway) and she pointed out that several JWs died (including a firefighter - there's an Awake article on it). Oh, and several other folks in the congregation mentioned it to me in a social setting and made fun of it. There was more than one comment about us needing to wear tin foil helmets.
This is just the kind of craziness that my parents generation who came in just prior to 1975 will eat up. However, the effect on the younger ones seems to be just the opposite.
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Social networks a huge no from the service meetings!
by life is to short inok so i sort of tie in and listen to the meetings.
the elders blocked my number lasy fall but then they let me back in???
not a clue what that was about.. so anywho these last two service parts have been on social networks.
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Not a local needs part. It was the regularly scheduled part on the SM that covered that Awake article mentioned and rightfully mocked above.
The guy that did ours (just a ms) tried to put a "reasonable" spin on it. It was still stupid and even my wife looked at me and rolled her eyes a few times at some of the more outrageous comments.
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Awake openly mocked on website...
by Tuesday inhttp://blogs.sfweekly.com/exhibitionist/2012/02/5_hilarious_social_media_image.php.
this is actually not a former witness or anything, this is a cracked style article.
i think it's pretty funny, i think it's evidence that the wt is not going to be around forever.
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Very funny! I often thought that at least 50% (probably closer to 90%) of the folks that would take the mags did so just to get rid of the person at the door and probably threw them away immediately. It really is rubbish isn't it?
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i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
by MsGrowingGirl20 ini'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.
i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.
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If this is not the truth then why are some of u still 'fading'? why condone untruth? Would God be happy if this isn't the truth and yet u still atempt to condone and fade?
In many cases, including my own, the price of leaving is greater than the price of staying. If I were to leave, it's highly likely that my wife would divorce me, my kids could be potentially turned against me and my entire family and much of my social circle would shun me. I have thought quite a bit about your question regarding truth and I really don't think there is a "true" religion out there today. I do understand that appearing to support something you don't believe in is hypocritical and I freely admit that. But, my keeping my wife is more important to me than what others think.
If she were to say that she wanted to quit today, I'd be gone.
I was an elder when I came to the conclusion that the WTS doesn't have the truth. I served for a few years before resigning. Now, I still attend, rarely comment (its hard because I can't worship the GB and that's where much of the discussion seems to be these days) still make an appearance in service.
My wife is aware of my thoughts and agrees with many of them. She simply sees this as the religion of her birth and a social circle. She thinks that Jehovah judges us on how we act not on our religious affiliation. I agree.
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i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
by MsGrowingGirl20 ini'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.
i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.
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Welcome!! I'll echo others in their advise to take things slow and make well thought out decisions. Ah, if I had only done what you're doing when I was 20..... this is a great place to vent and to learn. Look foward to hearing your contributions.
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Active JW understands flaws in WTS doctrine but believes in the Bible
by flamegrilled inperhaps this is a common topic for newbies on the site, but i have browsed for a while and not seen this exactly answered.. as an active jw who understands the flaws in wts doctrine, but believes in the bible, how do i identify a form of worship that meets all the criterea:.
1) by this all will know you are my disciples if you have love among yourselves (john 13:35).
sure i know that not all jws do this, and that people from other religions or non-religious people do this also, but as an official doctrine jws will not kill one another in war, and in general there is a genuine effort to exercise "agape" love not widely found in the world at large.. 2) preach the good news.
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yknot!!!! - So excited to see you're posting again. We've missed hearing from you.
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File a lawsuit against a fellow 'Christian" and you may get disfellowshipped...
by QuestioningEverything inmy very dear friends brother died tragically at work a few years back-the employer's were at fault 100%.
my friend cindy, her mom lily and his wife tammy-(all witnesses-not their real names) filed a lawsuit against the company and won a judgment of $1.2 million dollars.
the check was cut and cindy and her mom haven't seen one penny of the judgment.
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Sorry about the formatting. I thought I had it straight but when I posted, I see it's a mess. Anyway, that elder isn't following his own stupid rule!
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File a lawsuit against a fellow 'Christian" and you may get disfellowshipped...
by QuestioningEverything inmy very dear friends brother died tragically at work a few years back-the employer's were at fault 100%.
my friend cindy, her mom lily and his wife tammy-(all witnesses-not their real names) filed a lawsuit against the company and won a judgment of $1.2 million dollars.
the check was cut and cindy and her mom haven't seen one penny of the judgment.
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The worst they can do to her is to remove "privileges". So, if she was a pioneer, then she could get deleted but that's about it. She needs to speak with another elder or the CO.
According to the Shepherd the Flock of God book (elders manual) pages 133,134 - this is the rule:
Taking Brothers
to Court
22. At 1
Corinthians 6:1-8, the apostle Paul gave strong counsel that Christians should not take other Christians before secular courts to settle personal disputes that should be settled with
the help of the congregation elders.-w97 3/15 pp. 21-22; w8611/15 p. 20; g83 2/8 pp. 13-15; w7311/15 pp. 703-704. •
If an individual ignores God's Word on this matter, it may affect his congregation privileges.
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There is no difference between taking an individual brother or sister to court and taking
to court a corporation whose owners are all Jehovah's Witnesses. The spirit of 1 Corinthians 6:
1-8
would be violated by relying on the secular courts to settle business disputes among corporations that are made up entirely of brothers.
23. However, there are
legal matters over which the congregation does not have authority and which may therefore be taken to a secular court for judgment without violating the principle or
the spirit of 1 Corinthians 6: 1-8. These include:
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Getting a divorce decree, child custody and support, alimony.
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hapter 12 hapter 12 hapter 12hapter 12
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Obtaining insurance compensation. If a person suffers loss or is injured in or by an automobile
owned by
a spiritual brother, it might be necessary legally to sue the brother in order to
obtain compensation from the brother's insurer.
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Being listed among creditors in bankruptcy procedures.
• Probating
wills.
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Certain countersuits. For example, if a worldly creditor sues a brother, it might be necessary for
th
e brother, for his own protection, to file a countersuit even though spiritual brothers
may be included in the action.
• If
a brother takes legal action against another baptized Witness, it would not be a violation
of 1 Corinthians 6:1-8 for the one being sued to defend him self or to countersue. This
is true whether the matter was first taken before the elders or not.